Lauren Gryniewski

Round Three Photography

Tell me about your time in advertising. How did you get started and why did you leave?

I fell into advertising in college after bouncing around majors from architecture (seemed like an interest but not a passion), to pre-med (seemed too hard), to film (seemed too risky), when I decided to try some advertising classes. It seemed like I could make mini movies and provided a more surefire career path than film. This was right around 2000 and advertising was still the just basic media forms of tv, print, and radio, and commercials were still becoming part of the cultural lexicon. Think Budwiser “Wassup?” and “Got Milk?” times. (If you’re that old, like me.) Simpler times, for sure. 

I thought it would be a good idea to get an internship at an agency before I got too far down this new path of college classes to make sure advertising is something I’d like as a career. I went to school at the University of Miami in Florida. Not a big ad town, but there was a (then) mid-sized agency of about 70 people called Crispin Porter + Bogusky. I got an interview and marched in there in my business suit and oversized portfolio with charcoal drawings of nudes and such from my art classes. Totally clueless. But nonetheless, I walked out of that meeting with a job—one that paid $15/day, but that seemed generous to me for an internship. They told me that this funny little car called the MINI Cooper was coming to the US the next year and they wanted an intern to help out on all things for that account as they launched the brand.

So I shuffled all my classes around to be only on Tuesdays and Thursdays and went into CP+B on the other three days. It was an amazingly inspiring time to be there. They pitched and won IKEA. They pitched and won Molson. And they were doing all sorts of interesting things for MINI that were nothing like I’d ever seen done in advertising before. The people who worked there were young and fun, and I couldn’t wait to be done with school so I could start working full time too. The internship let me try out all the agency departments and that’s when I decided I wanted to be an art director. Agency mentors helped me get pointed toward ad schools and I went to the VCU Brandcenter (then Adcenter) after I graduated in 2003.

I met my future husband, Joel, a copywriter, at VCU and we became a creative team. After we graduated, we worked at a now defunct agency in Seattle. When they lost a big account and we felt it was time to make our next move, new jobs took us to San Francisco, but due to timing and job availability, we ended up working at different agencies. 

I took a job at Venables Bell and was thriving there. Joel’s agency was not as great of a fit, and he left, not exactly sure what was next. One night I was working late at the office with my partner, as you often do in your 20s, and decided to take a break and peruse a newly popular website, Craigslist. I happened upon an antique letterpress printing press. 

As Joel and I were dating, we loved finding creative greeting cards for each other, particularly if we could find something that was well crafted and high quality, like a nice letterpress-printed card. We sometimes ruminated about starting our own greeting card company. We had the skill sets of art and writing, after all. The press was only $500 and came with a cabinet and some type, and I sent the link to Joel without much of a plan. 

I had no idea that the little old press, which could only print a tiny area up to 5 ”x 7”, would lead to my exit from advertising.

What are you doing now? 

In 2007, we took some printmaking classes to learn how to use our press, and started brainstorming ideas for cards. That year, we also formed a business entity, formally called Old Tom Foolery’s Bric-A-Brac, and took a trip to New York to walk the greeting card industry’s biggest trade show, the National Stationery Show. We met some great people there and loved the friendly, welcoming vibe of the industry, which seemed a sharp contrast to the competitive nature of the advertising industry.

After determining that our favorite concept for a card collection “hadn’t been done,” we created a set of 52 cards, each a simple statement followed by an asterisk and a footnote at the bottom. The concept was a play on the many simple letterpress cards on the market that just said something like “I love you” with no twist, and the design was guided by the fact that it had to be relatively simple to print because we were printmaking novices and our press was so small.

Getting this collection off the ground in time to launch our business at the National Stationery Show in 2008 was no small feat. Joel had luckily found an agency that would let him work only two days a week, so he had some time to devote to some of the logistics while I tried to fit in our Old Tom Foolery work alongside my full-time job at Venables. But I was spending the majority of my time on production in LA, and it was getting nearly impossible to find any significant time to do what we needed to get the business up and running. These days, it’s a viable path to start with direct-to-consumer sales online, but at that time, Etsy was brand new and selling online via your own website was still a pretty new thing. Our best option for quick success was to try to connect with as many wholesale accounts as possible—ideally both chains and boutiques—and find some sales reps. And that meant exhibiting in New York in May. 

To make our deadline, I had to quit my job at Venables. At that time, I fully thought I’d be back at an ad job as soon as the card business was a smoothly running machine. We made the scary leap of only living on Joel’s two-day-a-week income, which thankfully also covered our health insurance, and hoped for the best. 

Everything that could have possibly gone wrong before the trade show did. But we made it there, set up a bare bones booth, and introduced our 52 little babies to the stationery world. It was exhilarating and exhausting but we loved it, and after investing several thousands of dollars by scraping funds together to get to the show, we walked away with eight. Small. Orders. Like $100-$300 size orders. But we got lots of business cards and met some sales reps and went back to San Francisco, where we eagerly anticipated the sound of the fax machine printing out tons of orders coming in. The faxes did come, and we even got an occasional order by email or phone, but it was slow growth for sure. 

We needed more money, so I freelanced a bit, and then BBDO SF agreed to hire me to come in Mon/Wed/Fri, so I could spend the other days working on Old Tom Foolery. As our account list grew, we realized this tiny press that only printed one card at a time (in our kitchen, no less) was not going to cut it. So we started outsourcing the printing to a local letterpress printer, which resulted in a huge snafu and major expense before fairly smooth sailing for a while. 

I remember telling a friend at work that I was sure that if we could just get into Paper Source we’d be SET. But then we did get into Paper Source, and while we definitely weren’t “set,” it was still exciting. And then we got into other big chains like Urban Outfitters, Nordstrom, and Papyrus, and launched a non-letterpress line to reach a lower price point market, and soon our apartment was a packed little warehouse that smelled like cardboard and ink.

We were running out of space, and living on an income of a three-day-a-week job and a two-day-a-week job, plus maybe a tiny bit of profit from the business. Instead of renting expensive warehouse space in San Francisco, we decided to move to Joel’s home state of Minnesota in 2010 and find a house that had a basement we could dedicate to the business. 

As the company grew, we had a handful of employees coming to our house to work in the basement office. And as the business grew and we introduced more products, the inventory got bigger and bigger. And then we launched a second brand, a photographic line called Modern Lore, and then we were out of space again. 

We needed a real office and warehouse space and decided to offset the cost of rent by finding a space that allowed for a retail shop in the front. So in 2013, we moved the office out of our house and opened a gift shop called Greater Goods in the Eat Street neighborhood of Minneapolis. Having a store was a great experience and we loved interacting with the local community instead of just shipping orders out. 

Over the next few years, Modern Lore ended up outselling Old Tom Foolery, thanks to Anthropologie consistently carrying the line and becoming our biggest account. Before we knew it, we had hundreds of SKUs for Modern Lore, hundreds of SKUs for Old Tom Foolery, hundreds of SKUs for Greater Goods, and then…we had a kid. (Record scratch.) It all started to feel very complicated and a lot to manage. And with a kid around, it became a lot harder to cover random store shifts if someone called in sick. It had been 11 years of a crazy, mostly wonderful ride, and we started to wonder, could we sell this thing and move on?

At the end of 2018, we sold our stationery brands, Old Tom Foolery and Modern Lore, to our very talented friends at The Mincing Mockingbird. You can still purchase many of our styles through them, and they’ve even expanded some of the collections a bit. 

We also sold the store to a local artist who was looking to leave a corporate job.

We didn’t cash out big time on those sales like a tech company might, but it was a nice way to wrap up that chapter of our life and not carry forward any debt or expenses. 

Joel had been freelancing for Apple on product launches off and on for several years alongside running our business. So after everything changed hands at the end of 2018, we spent the winter in California while he did a freelance gig at Apple and thought about what would be next.

How did the idea for your new venture come about? 

For the first four months of 2019, I had nothing to do but kill time with a one-year-old in California, and think about what I wanted to do next career-wise while he was napping. 

A funny thing happens when you become your own boss: you don’t ever want to have another boss again. It’s not that I had bad bosses, it’s just really nice to be in charge of your own time. So I spent a lot of time thinking about the things I like to do and related types of businesses I could run.

Since we needed some stability and Joel had a good thing going with Apple, I focused on businesses that I could run solo. I really tried to channel that expression, “Do what you love and you’ll never work a day in your life.” And I can honestly say, that expression is a bit of a stretch for any business owner because I do have a business where I love doing the meat-and-potatoes work, but it still has all the administrative tasks that every other business has. And those days definitely feel more like work than fun.

But anyway, when thinking about what I love to do, it came down to gardening, something animal related, or photography. I didn’t want to have a business that had a lot of expense tied up in product inventory, and I didn’t want significant ongoing overhead expenses. I also didn’t want the complexity of managing staff. That meant a one-woman service operation where I’d (theoretically) get paid for my time spent working. 

As I thought about my interests, gardening seemed a bit dirty and physically demanding, and I also didn’t want to lose interest in doing it as a hobby.

Thinking about animals, I wasn’t interested in being a groomer or a walker, but I did like the idea of photographing animals. I actually had an early Blogspot site from about 2008-2010 called Other People’s Pooches, where I photographed dogs to quell my craving for dog ownership and also got to work on my photography skills.

Then, I started thinking about my interest in photography as a whole. I’d always loved taking photos for fun and ended up needing to do product and marketing photography for our businesses. I had already been taking pretty good quality cameras on our trips and was constantly taking photos as we traveled. But what did I love taking so many photos of? It was buildings! I had lots and lots of photos of buildings. And also all the big views down to the tiny textures of all the places we went. I realized I loved visually telling the stories of places to make people feel like they were actually there. So I started to dig more into that as a photography subject because animals seemed a bit too specific.

First, I learned about travel photography, and then street photography, and then I discovered architectural photography. While I loved the idea of traveling and documenting new places, that was getting a bit harder to do now that we were responsible for a kid. Street photography seemed very cool and had a great community of artists, but was rarely related to monetary compensation. But with architecture, now here was something I’ve always been interested in, and there were actual businesses like architecture firms, interior designers, and builders who would actually pay decent money for images documenting their work. And they could be repeat clients that I could build a relationship with, which I loved. 

As I learned more about architectural photography, it seemed like it was going to be a great fit. It’s a very methodical, process-oriented type of photography, which reminded me of how I used to love learning structured classical music when I played instruments in high school. And there was still room for documenting the big picture and context of a built environment, all the way down to the details like material textures. It had a lot of the same elements that appealed to me about travel photography.

What was your first step to becoming an architectural photographer?

The first steps I took toward becoming an architectural photographer were to fill the skill/knowledge gaps I knew I needed to develop. This was 100% accomplished through online resources, which were incredible, and I don’t think this would have been possible if I started this path in 2007 instead of the stationery business. When I first got a DSLR back in 2008, I took a two-day workshop to learn the basics of my camera and some photography fundamentals. But since then I had just sort of been winging it. 

I then started learning about the technical gear I’d need to buy, and began combing through my library of photos from over the years to see if I could put together something that could pass as a basic architectural photography portfolio. I also reached out to a local organization to match me with a mentor who I could learn from and assist to get hands-on experience.

What struggles did you have?

When we had the stationery businesses, we had many, many physically tangible struggles and failures. Lots and lots of damaged products. So many cards that were just printed a *little* poorly or a *little* creased and having to sort through and decide what was or wasn’t sellable. Retailers came and left, some products flopped, some employees didn’t work out, money was tight—it was always something or another.

With the photography business, there have been struggles, but they have been much more manageable. Mostly just a few learning curves and technical difficulties. Sometimes I’ll reach out to potential new clients and never get a response, which can be frustrating, but I know everyone is busy. I’m still trying to establish consistency of shoots and income throughout the year, but I do think it will always be a bit of a cyclical, seasonal business–especially in Minnesota. But overall it’s been great, and growing well, and the struggles that happen in this business are so much simpler and more manageable than before.

Did you have help along the way?

There have been so many incredibly helpful, kind people who guided us in the stationery world and also now in the architectural photography community. 

As I mentioned about the stationery world, it was a wonderful community and we loved going out after the long trade show days and talking shop with our fellow indie card makers. We also got involved with the professional organization, the Greeting Card Association, and realized there was a lot to learn from the people who work at the places we used to just consider to be the big box brands. 

For the photography business, as I mentioned, I got matched with a mentor, who has been a great resource to get me off the ground. I also have a cousin who owns an architecture firm In Philadelphia with her husband. I was able to do a lot of early shoots with them, so I could try new techniques and troubleshoot without feeling the stress of facing challenges on site with a new client. And Facebook groups have been invaluable. I’m a member of a handful of pretty specific architectural photography groups, with photographers of all levels from all around the world. If you have a question, chances are it’s been asked there before, or if you ask it, someone (or many people) will help you out.

Did you ever consider giving up? 

I’m not sure if selling our businesses is kind of like giving up in a way, but we just felt it was time to move on. Over the years there were definitely times we were struggling but always felt like we had too much money tied up in physical inventory to just throw in the towel. Selling always seemed like it was going to be the final move for our stationery businesses.

And being just four years into my architectural photography career—with a pandemic and second child seriously hampering two of those four years—there hasn’t been much of a chance to consider giving up before giving the business a fair shot, even in the slow months.

What would you do differently if you did it again? 

This is a really tough question because, with the stationery businesses, I think back on lots of creative and financial decisions we made that a more conservative business person would not have made. But as passionate creatives, I totally understand why we made all the decisions that we did. I’d maybe encourage people who are interested in starting a business that involves a tangible product (or I guess this applies to all businesses to an extent) to either partner or consult with someone who has a business/accounting background.

It’s been a major learning curve to go from a fully creative skill set to attempting to understand accounting and business strategies. And since managing the book is always the last thing I want to do, all the financial work tends to get pushed back and not properly planned for.

What advice do you wish you had before you started?

The success of a business is not measured by how much time you spend working.  

What's the single biggest mistake you made in doing this? 

Probably taking ourselves too seriously and being overly precious about quality. This applies to the stationery and the photography businesses and is always the downfall of a perfectionist. I think a lot of  time and money can be saved by taking some things with a grain of salt and not obsessing about things 99% of people would never even notice. But I’m still working on that one!

What is the single most important thing that contributed to your success?

For better or worse my husband, Joel, and I both seem to be pretty much the opposite of risk averse. Perhaps this ties into our creative rather than business backgrounds, but we tend to jump on ideas we’re passionate about before worrying too much about how it will shake out financially.

Do you miss your old life?

I miss going on production, and I miss the camaraderie of the ad agency office. But I don’t miss how advertising involves so many layers of people weighing in on ideas. And I definitely don’t miss being involved in unnecessary meetings. 

I miss seeing our stationery friends and taking trips to New York for trade shows and other cities for the association conventions that moved locations each year. I also miss being involved with the community our store was located in and seeing our regular customers.  But I don’t miss the stress and hassle of managing so much inventory and so many employees.